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Opening message if no mail client supporting .EML available

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:28 pm
by pol098
I don't have a program on my computer that supports the .EML file format. To view a message that's not in text format I have to save it with extension .MHT instead of .EML, then open it with a browser (Firefox or Internet Explorer). (EML is the same format as MHT, just a different name.)

To allow viewing from PopTray with the Open button without the need for me to save, then open, I have made a simple modification to PopTray.exe: with a binary editor search for two occurrences of "temp.eml" and change them both to "temp.mht" (be very sure to overwrite the existing characters, don't insert or delete - everything must stay in the same place; and be sure to keep a copy of the original program file). A bit cumbersome, have to Preview, then Open; and can't view attachments. But messages open in the program that handles .MHT files (Internet Explorer by default) and I can preview messages that aren't just text.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:46 pm
by Rdsok
Most people actually read their email in a real email client and not Poptray which is an email notifier, not an email client. The preview was simply meant to be a method to determine if a particular email should be deleted or not before actually opening them in the main email client.

While Poptray is no longer being developed... PoptrayU is and you may consider making a suggestion to support alternate email message types to it's author.

The .eml file extention is a standard email file format developed by Microsoft. It can be read in Outlook Express, MS Outlook, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird and probably several others. While many people do read their email through a webmail internet website on the browser they use... these are not considered email clients and shouldn't be expected to read standard email file formats.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:30 pm
by pol098
Following my suggested patch:

[quote="Rdsok"]Most people actually read their email in a real email client ...[/quote]

That's all obvious and assumed. However, most people is not all people, and PopTray has the designed ability to open a message in a client; my patch simply allows the Open command to work on a system which doesn't have a mail application supporting .EML. It might work from a memory stick on a public computer (with Internet Explorer) while travelling, though I haven't yet tried this. I use PopTray from anywhere to see what mail has arrived, read the brief text mail and anything urgent, and delete lots of unwanted stuff undownloaded. It's possible to compile PopTray's published source with the .MHT modification, but the quick patch works fine.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:00 pm
by Rdsok
My post wasn't a criticism ... it was meant to be more educational. IE say what Poptray was intended as and explain a bit about the file format that was chosen is a standard which is why it was being used...

... and to mention your type of solution ( whether it's as a .MHT or other common type such as .RTF which is even more open ) to the other programmer that is carrying on with the development since Renier isn't developing Poptray itself further ( at this time ).

Re: Opening message if no mail client supporting EML available

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:46 pm
by Rdsok
Godmon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 9:26 pm
Hello DA-folks,

When I sent a message to e.g. a non-existent mail address the mail is directly frozen.
But I do not receive a bounce mail at the sender the mail address.

Is this standard or is there something wrong?

I do see the following in the log:

You will need to delete the email you are trying to send from the email client you are using... if you need help with how, contact their support for that.

Most email servers no longer bounce emails since spammers can use that to see if the email account is active or not.