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Bug with Spampal

Post by mightor » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:03 pm

Hello,

here is a strange bug i've noticed some months ago and never been fixed in various releases.

PopTray is configured with Spampal and there is a rule to mark as spam every message which contains **SPAM** at the beginning of the subject.
This works well for almost every spam.

But sometimes, the **SPAM** does not appear in the Mail window of PopTray, but it does in the preview window (also, the X-Spampal header is visible in the preview window). And of course, the email is not detected as spam by PopTray.
Very Strange, isn't it ?

And more (so that you can be sure the problem comes from PopTray): If I use PopPeeper (not as good as PopTray, but it was for testing purposes), the same emails are correctly marked as spam. Same thing where I download the mails in Outlook or Outlook express.

This is an anoying bug which makes me thinking about using PopPeeper, but this one does not include rules filters at this time (and won't in a near future) and I prefer the PopTray user interface and tray bar email notice icons.

So please, have a look at this.

Thank you

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Post by KY Dave » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:34 pm

There are some tricks that spammers are using lately that causes the markers the programs like SPAMPAL, K9 and etc... place in the SUBJECT line or HEADER to not show up or be read by some clients.

I've reported about the same thing in the thread linked below...
viewtopic.php?t=2871

I suggest you ADD a RULE or ADD a line to your RULE and try using the CRITERIA of...

AREA = HEADER
COMPARE = CONTAINS
TEXT = **SPAM**

If SPAMPAL places the marker in the SUBJECT, it should also be in the HEADER.
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Post by mightor » Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:43 pm

I didn't know such a thing, but before using the subject to filter messages, I used header, exactly like you suggest me to do.
And that didn't worked.
I also tried with two rules at the same time, one with the subject and the other with the header.

I really think the problem is somewhere alse, as I did a LOT of testing before opening an account on this forum to post the *bug*.

Any other idea ? Something with the options ?

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Post by KY Dave » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:56 pm

No other ideas.

The only recommendation I have is,
when you are testing your RULES...

use SHIFT+CHECK to make the RULES work every time.

If you simply click on CHECK and are using QUICK CHECKING the RULES don't always work on old mail.
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Post by mightor » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:13 am

It is not a RULE problem, as rules work correctly (test with SHIFT + CHECK does not change anything).
It's only a problem of email content and subject reading.
Remember that the email correctly shows **SPAM** in the subject and "X-Spampal" in the header when opened in the preview window, but nothing appears in the mail (main) window.
Maybe these two windows are retrieving the emails differently ?

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Post by Renier » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:18 pm

Maybe your SpamPal only marks the messages when they are completely downloaded, not when only the headers are fetched. You could try switching on the option to download the message bodies while checking.

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Post by mightor » Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:30 pm

Option "Retrieve Body while Checking" in "Advanced Options" ?
Ok, it were not checked, now it is. I'll test this in the following hours (should not take a long time as I receive a LOT of spam).

I doubt, because most of the emails were correctly marked with SpamPal with the option not checked. But... let's try !

Thank you for the idea.

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Post by mightor » Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:16 am

Your idea was the good one ! It works perfectly !
Thanks a lot. I think you can add this to the doc at the chapter of configuring PopTray with SpamPal.

Regards,

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Post by steen » Tue May 23, 2006 5:38 pm

Where can I find that "chapter of configuring PopTray with SpamPal"? Until now I've been using MailWasher and like the connection with the spam database, and I'm interested in doing the same thing with PopTray.

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Post by KY Dave » Tue May 23, 2006 5:48 pm

steen wrote:Where can I find that "chapter of configuring PopTray with SpamPal"?
On the SPAMPAL web site at the link below...

http://www.spampal.org/usermanual/clien ... ptray.html
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