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PopTray with K9 need help plz

Post by stugutz » Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 am

Hi guys
I have used the instructions that are listed by KY on how to use poptray with K9 and i'm a little confused so plz exuse my ignorance...

KY says:
On PopTray's ACCOUNTS Tab...
Set the SERVER to 127.0.0.1
Set PORT to 9999

For POP3 access, set LOGIN to (YOUR POP SERVER) / 110 / (YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNT)
So for POP3 access it would look like this : mail.poptray.org/110/kydave@poptray.org

Your PASSWORD stays as is.

SAVE ACCOUNTS.
Questions I have..

Do I set up a account with poptray saying..
Name - K9
SERVER - 127.0.0.1
Protocol - POP3
PORT - 9999
no login no password

then enabled it - saved it - restarted it.
All my other accounts in poptray I set up as normal using my email details
Is this correct?

2. In K9 do I set up my email accounts as well in the advanced section?

I ask this because I don't seem to be getting anything through K9.

3. For K9 in the whitelist area - I don't have a whitelist with details, do I need to have one?
For Poptray I don't have one made up either.

Like I said plz exuse my ignorance... :o

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Post by quosego » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:29 pm

You must add (as dave described):

So for POP3 access it would look like this : mail.poptray.org/110/kydave@poptray.org

Your PASSWORD stays as is.

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Post by stugutz » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:09 pm

quosego wrote:You must add (as dave described):

So for POP3 access it would look like this : mail.poptray.org/110/kydave@poptray.org

Your PASSWORD stays as is.
Sorry doesn't make sense.

Could someone please explain it in simpler terms

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Post by KY Dave » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:52 pm

On ALL Accounts you want to use K9 to check for SPAM you must...

On the ACCOUNTS Tab...

Set the SERVER to 127.0.0.1

Set PORT to 9999

So for POP3 access your LOGIN would look like this...

mail.poptray.org/110/stugutz@poptray.org

Your PASSWORD stays as is.

SAVE ACCOUNTS.
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Post by Rdsok » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:57 pm

Since the others do not know your real email account information.. they are using a fake example for that info...

Normally you would enter the following for not using K9

Name: [You can name this whatever you want]
Server: mail.poptray.org ( this is just an example, use your info instead )
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 110
Login: username
Password: password

Now using K9 with Poptray you make the following changes

Name: [You can name this whatever you want]
Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.poptray.org/110/username
Password: password

Notice that the Server is changed to 127.0.0.1

Notice for Login it now combines the info for ...
[email server name]/[email port]/[username]
and places all of it in that one line but seperating each with a "/"

You would also perform the exact same steps in your email client so it would also be using K9

This is about as simple of an explaination as you can get...

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Post by stugutz » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:11 am

Thanks guys I get the drift now DA :roll:

I assume that K9 takes a while before it recognizes spam.
Because the moment my K9 logs are updated listing all is good but spam is still coming into my poptray.

Is this correct?

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Post by KY Dave » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:02 pm

As email comes through, open K9 and 'CLASSIFY' the emails as SPAM by clicking the email and then the SPAM Button.

The more email K9 receives, the greater it's percentage of correctly identifying the mail will be. The amount of time it will take will depend on how much email you receive. Usually within a week or so you will find K9 marks most of the email correctly.

As email from your friends come in, in K9 RIGHT CLICK on their email and add their from address to the WHITELIST.
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Post by stugutz » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:57 pm

Should I be listing my accounts to be checked in K9 as well then?

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Post by KY Dave » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:00 am

stugutz wrote:Should I be listing my accounts to be checked in K9 as well then?
I'm not sure what that question means?

If you are referring to placing your EMAIL ADDRESSES in the WHITELIST, then I recommend NOT doing that. Spammers will forge your email address as the FROM ADDRESS and K9 would pass it through.

Here's the way I use K9 and PopTray.

I run all ACCOUNTS through K9.

I make a RULE for each ACCOUNT to MARK AS SPAM or DELETE FROM SERVER if the HEADER CONTAINS [SPAM].

As you get the hang of how K9 works and can depend on your settings, you may want to change it to use the actual percentage for even more control.

Refer back to the STICKY Post linked below when you are confident with your settings...
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Post by stugutz » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:52 am

Now this is where I'm getting a little confused.

Dave what your saying is to list all my POP3 accounts in K9 and in Poptray just list -
Name: [You can name this whatever you want]
Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.poptray.org/110/username
Password: password

...with the rules you set out in the sticky post

Am i understanding it correctly now?

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Post by KY Dave » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:17 pm

If you have 4 accounts A, B, C and D then...

Account A

Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.A's mailserver.org/110/A's username
Password: A's password

Account B

Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.B's mailserver.org/110/B's username
Password: B's password

Account C

Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.C's mailserver.org/110/C's username
Password: C's password

Account D

Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.D's mailserver.org/110/D's username
Password: D's password

Setup all your accounts to go through K9 using the above mentioned system... (use your actual mail servers, usernames and passwords)

Then ADD a RULE that works for ONLY that SPECIFIC ACCOUNT.

RULE 1 could be for ACCOUNT A to DELETE.
RULE 2 could be for ACCOUNT B to MARK AS SPAM.
RULE 3 could be for ACCOUNT C to MARK AS SPAM.
RULE 4 could be for ACCOUNT D to DELETE.

and continue on as you see fit with however many accounts you are using.
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Post by stugutz » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:40 pm

Dave I must be so dumb because I still am confused.

If I set up K9 using your system ..

Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.A's mailserver.org/110/A's username
Password: A's password

How does Poptray retrieve it from K9?

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Post by KY Dave » Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:43 pm

By setting PORT 9999 and server as 127.0.0.1, this causes PopTray to send info to the localhost which K9 uses instead of PopTray sending the request for info to the actual email server on the internet.

PopTray ACCOUNT A queries K9, which then sends a request to the ACCOUNT A email server on the internet.

The info comes back to K9 which 'reads' it and counts the number of words inside each email, makes a determination of SPAM or GOOD, then passes the info on to ACCOUNT A in PopTray.

The process then repeats for accounts B, C, and D as the PopTray timer signals a check for those accounts.
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Post by stugutz » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:08 am

So to sumarize..

In K9:
Name: [You can name this whatever you want]
Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.poptray.org/110/username
Password: password

In Poptray set up my accounts as per normal using the proper methods

At least thats how I understand it now.

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Post by KY Dave » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:34 pm

No, there is NO need to setup your accounts in K9.
All the setups mentioned here were for PopTray.
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Post by stugutz » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:51 am

Ok then.

This is the final post I'll make in this subject unless you disagree.

This is what I have done.

In Poptray
1. Set up poptray to read on all accounts -
Name: [You can name this whatever you want]
Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.myispserver.com/110/myusername
Password: password

2. In poptray added your rules that were mentioned in the sticky post

In K9
1. No accounts added

2. Set the config and advanced tabs as per your instructions in the sticky post.

Please say that this is correct and I'll get on with life :)

If it is many thanks for clarifying to this dumb person.
If it's not - well beware, I'll be asking again :?

PS: should I set up my outlook to read accounts this way as well..
Name: [You can name this whatever you want]
Server: 127.0.0.1
Protcol: POP3 ... Port 9999
Login: mail.poptray.org/110/username
Password: password

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